Is there any way of being able to EXIT a program without having all my windows to close?
EG. Ctrl+Alt+Del and then chose which program you wanna terminate (if its not responding etc)
Im on FC4 and FF
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Also, here on the forum I have noticed lately that if I want to respond to a few comments under a same topic, my comments end up squeezed into ONE instead of multiple.
Why and what can I do about it?
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open a terminal
and do this
it should list a bunch of processes... (CTRL_C to quit top)
if you know which process you want to close (kill) then you must first find out it's PID (process identification number)
eg: if you want to kill/close FIREFOX then try this in a terminal
stage one: find it
results below...
stage two: kill it (close the application)
the 3531 is the PID of the program, the second one listed is me actually grepping it in the firstplace...
if more than one PID is listed for your chosen program then you should kill each one individually or try
pkill PID
done !
cheers
anyweb
and do this
QUOTE
top
CODE
Tasks: 113 total, 5 running, 107 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 5.5% us, 0.4% sy, 0.1% ni, 93.6% id, 0.3% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.0% si, 0Mem: 507396k total, 496892k used, 10504k free, 40692k buffers
Swap: 1048568k total, 152k used, 1048416k free, 178100k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22406 anyweb 15 0 267m 33m 12m S 47.6 6.7 76:34.80 java_vm
2630 root 15 0 324m 59m 11m S 2.0 12.1 86:58.67 Xorg
2820 anyweb 15 0 63388 8428 7080 S 2.0 1.7 0:04.36 gnome-netstatus
1 root 15 0 1996 676 584 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 init
2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
4 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 events/0
5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread
8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 kblockd/0
9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
139 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd
141 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 kseriod
198 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
199 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 pdflush
200 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.24 kswapd0
201 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0
Cpu(s): 5.5% us, 0.4% sy, 0.1% ni, 93.6% id, 0.3% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.0% si, 0Mem: 507396k total, 496892k used, 10504k free, 40692k buffers
Swap: 1048568k total, 152k used, 1048416k free, 178100k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22406 anyweb 15 0 267m 33m 12m S 47.6 6.7 76:34.80 java_vm
2630 root 15 0 324m 59m 11m S 2.0 12.1 86:58.67 Xorg
2820 anyweb 15 0 63388 8428 7080 S 2.0 1.7 0:04.36 gnome-netstatus
1 root 15 0 1996 676 584 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 init
2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
4 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 events/0
5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread
8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 kblockd/0
9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
139 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd
141 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 kseriod
198 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
199 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 pdflush
200 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.24 kswapd0
201 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0
it should list a bunch of processes... (CTRL_C to quit top)
if you know which process you want to close (kill) then you must first find out it's PID (process identification number)
eg: if you want to kill/close FIREFOX then try this in a terminal
stage one: find it
CODE
ps aux |grep firefox
results below...
QUOTE
[anyweb@localhost ~]$ ps aux |grep firefox
anyweb 3531 0.0 0.2 4396 1064 ? S Jul14 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.4/firefox -UILocale en-US
anyweb 23625 0.0 0.1 3912 648 pts/1 R+ 00:00 0:00 grep firefox
anyweb 3531 0.0 0.2 4396 1064 ? S Jul14 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.4/firefox -UILocale en-US
anyweb 23625 0.0 0.1 3912 648 pts/1 R+ 00:00 0:00 grep firefox
stage two: kill it (close the application)
CODE
kill -9 3531
the 3531 is the PID of the program, the second one listed is me actually grepping it in the firstplace...
if more than one PID is listed for your chosen program then you should kill each one individually or try
pkill PID
done !
cheers
anyweb
That's interesting, I must try that some time BUT sometimes everything just hangs.. well it thinks.. and thinks... and nothing happens. Then I could click terminal but it wouldnt open because the pc is busy trying to figure out the previous command that made it 'crash' in the first place... what to do then?
And what about the messages in forum?
And what about the messages in forum?
QUOTE (anyweb @ Jul 16 2006, 09:00 PM) 
open a terminal
and do this
it should list a bunch of processes... (CTRL_C to quit top)
if you know which process you want to close (kill) then you must first find out it's PID (process identification number)
eg: if you want to kill/close FIREFOX then try this in a terminal
stage one: find it
results below...
stage two: kill it (close the application)
the 3531 is the PID of the program, the second one listed is me actually grepping it in the firstplace...
if more than one PID is listed for your chosen program then you should kill each one individually or try
pkill PID
done !
cheers
anyweb
and do this
QUOTE
top
CODE
Tasks: 113 total, 5 running, 107 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 5.5% us, 0.4% sy, 0.1% ni, 93.6% id, 0.3% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.0% si, 0Mem: 507396k total, 496892k used, 10504k free, 40692k buffers
Swap: 1048568k total, 152k used, 1048416k free, 178100k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22406 anyweb 15 0 267m 33m 12m S 47.6 6.7 76:34.80 java_vm
2630 root 15 0 324m 59m 11m S 2.0 12.1 86:58.67 Xorg
2820 anyweb 15 0 63388 8428 7080 S 2.0 1.7 0:04.36 gnome-netstatus
1 root 15 0 1996 676 584 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 init
2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
4 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 events/0
5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread
8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 kblockd/0
9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
139 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd
141 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 kseriod
198 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
199 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 pdflush
200 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.24 kswapd0
201 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0
Cpu(s): 5.5% us, 0.4% sy, 0.1% ni, 93.6% id, 0.3% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.0% si, 0Mem: 507396k total, 496892k used, 10504k free, 40692k buffers
Swap: 1048568k total, 152k used, 1048416k free, 178100k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22406 anyweb 15 0 267m 33m 12m S 47.6 6.7 76:34.80 java_vm
2630 root 15 0 324m 59m 11m S 2.0 12.1 86:58.67 Xorg
2820 anyweb 15 0 63388 8428 7080 S 2.0 1.7 0:04.36 gnome-netstatus
1 root 15 0 1996 676 584 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 init
2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
4 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 events/0
5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread
8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 kblockd/0
9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
139 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd
141 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 kseriod
198 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
199 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 pdflush
200 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.24 kswapd0
201 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0
it should list a bunch of processes... (CTRL_C to quit top)
if you know which process you want to close (kill) then you must first find out it's PID (process identification number)
eg: if you want to kill/close FIREFOX then try this in a terminal
stage one: find it
CODE
ps aux |grep firefox
results below...
QUOTE
[anyweb@localhost ~]$ ps aux |grep firefox
anyweb 3531 0.0 0.2 4396 1064 ? S Jul14 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.4/firefox -UILocale en-US
anyweb 23625 0.0 0.1 3912 648 pts/1 R+ 00:00 0:00 grep firefox
anyweb 3531 0.0 0.2 4396 1064 ? S Jul14 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.4/firefox -UILocale en-US
anyweb 23625 0.0 0.1 3912 648 pts/1 R+ 00:00 0:00 grep firefox
stage two: kill it (close the application)
CODE
kill -9 3531
the 3531 is the PID of the program, the second one listed is me actually grepping it in the firstplace...
if more than one PID is listed for your chosen program then you should kill each one individually or try
pkill PID
done !
cheers
anyweb
if its hanging look at the hard disc activity LED on the computer, if its blinking then the computer is working (probably moving stuff on the swap partition, hence slow or non responsive)
what problem with messages on the forum ??
what problem with messages on the forum ??
Also, here on the forum I have noticed lately (sometimes) that if I want to respond to a few comments under a same topic, my comments end up squeezed into ONE instead of multiple.
Why and what can I do about it?
Why and what can I do about it?
QUOTE (anyweb @ Jul 16 2006, 09:09 PM)
if its hanging look at the hard disc activity LED on the computer, if its blinking then the computer is working (probably moving stuff on the swap partition, hence slow or non responsive)
what problem with messages on the forum ??
what problem with messages on the forum ??
or you can just use the kde or gnome task monitor app.
it should be installed by default with the desktop env.
kde :: KSysGuard
gnome :: gnome-system-monitor
it should be installed by default with the desktop env.
kde :: KSysGuard
gnome :: gnome-system-monitor
What do they do and how do I work them?
Im a noob.
Im a noob.
QUOTE (noriko @ Jul 17 2006, 12:58 PM)
or you can just use the kde or gnome task monitor app.
it should be installed by default with the desktop env.
kde :: KSysGuard
gnome :: gnome-system-monitor
it should be installed by default with the desktop env.
kde :: KSysGuard
gnome :: gnome-system-monitor
QUOTE
What do they do and how do I work them?
Im a noob.
Im a noob.
well, they are ools very much like the windows task-manager [ctrl]+[alt]+[del]
i've simply uploaded some shots for to feast your eyes on.
the gnome system monitor - is prefixed : gsm-
the k[de] system guard - is prefixed : ksg-
http://rl.j2k.cc/sys
they are launched with the commands ..
gnome-system-monitor
or
ksysguard
if they fail then you'll need to install them.
through yum or whatever the fed's package manager is.
btw you don't need both.just thought i'd point it out since i don't know what your [de] is. i'd prefer gsm though.
I have an old and somewhat slow computer, and sometimes things hang like you mentioned(with heavy drive activity etc.). One thing that sometimes works for me is, instead of trying to open a graphical terminal. do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get into a real term. I don't know why but it seems to switch over to those terminals quicker than it can load a graphical term. From there you can kill processes like anyweb suggested. When your done, do ctrl-alt-f7 to go back to your desktop. It doesn't always help but it has gotten me through some rough spots. 
might i also add :::
there is another program that comes along with teh 'kill' [tools[i think-well it is for me[on archlinux]]]
it's killall
that tool takes teh prcocess by name..
no instead of, top, kill pid..
you can simply do..
killall firefox
killall -g root, etc..
see killall --help or man killall for more..
sorry i forgot that one last post..
there is another program that comes along with teh 'kill' [tools[i think-well it is for me[on archlinux]]]
it's killall
that tool takes teh prcocess by name..
no instead of, top, kill pid..
you can simply do..
killall firefox
killall -g root, etc..
see killall --help or man killall for more..
sorry i forgot that one last post..
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