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As some of you may know I have already tried 30 days with Suse linux Enterprise Desktop 10 and I've covered Ubuntu 7.04 for 30 days to get a decent overview of thosedistros and now it's time to try another one, this time it's PCLinuxOS.

 

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Day 1, starts today, January 11th, 2008.

 

so here's the first screenshot (after booting from the LiveCD which I downloaded from here > http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=...s&Itemid=28

 

if you go to http://www.pclinuxos.com and choose 'getpclinuxos' you'll get the options to buy, download or try out the community remasters. As I wanted to get stuck in, I chose the download option and burned the ISO to CD. That CD was a PCLinuxOS 2007 liveCD which you can boot off and end up with a nice KDE based desktop.

 

while i'm not particularly fond of KDE (ok I admit it, k3b rocks !) I moved onward to see how this distro would progress in my hands.

 

As you can see below from the default livecd bootup, there's a nice KDE desktop with at least one thing some Windows users are used to, and that is the FireFox icon.

 

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My first surprise occured while browsing through the 'PC' menu, and then choosing Internet followed by Remote access. While I expected to find a 'terminal' program I was instead blinded by a familiar Windows Icon (for anyone that uses both Windows and Linux and ssh) called putty. I clicked on it and putty started, I was impressed but also confused, I guess I need to find out exactly what market PCLinuxOS is aimed at (I'm guessing Windows users with some limited linux experience).

 

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Anyways, it was getting late in the night and it was a long week so I decided to get started by clicking on the 'Install PCLinuxOS' icon. that action brought up a Draklive-Install Enhanced wizard, which for Mandrake sorry Mandriva users should be familiar enough, so I did the predictable and clicked on \next'

 

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followed by choosing 'Normal Hard Drive (ide,sata)' and then next. This now gave me the option of removing the Windows Installation that was already there, or for dual booters, use the free space on the Windows partition and why doesn't it spell this out as dual boot.

 

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I chose to dual boot (second option) and after clicking next was given a warning which stated

 

WARNING!

DrakX will now resize your Windows partition. Be careful: this operation is dangerous. If you have not already done so, you first need to exit the installation, run "chkdsk c:" from a Command Prompt under Windows (beware, running graphical program "scandisk" is not enough, be sure to use "chkdsk" in a Command Prompt!), optionally run defrag, then restart the installation. You should also backup your data. When sure, press Ok.

 

As this was a test machine and I didn't care about the installation of Windows that was currently on it (Windows XP sp2) I clicked next. Now I was given the option of how much space I should reserve for Windows, as this was a 40gb hdd, I chose half or approx 20gb.

 

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After clicking next, I was informed that because of resizing the partitions, my next boot into Windows would encur some filesystem checks (chkdsk), the next screen that popped up worried me as I can imagine that noobs would not know which window to click on or may panic and give up.

 

One window told me that a new medium has been detected (20gb Media) and the window directly behind that had a BIG warning symbol on it with

a warning in red which said 'The partition/s you have selected will be formatted. All the data will be wiped. I clicked on next.

 

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This allowed me to click next again to install or to quit (cancel), however the 20gb Media (KDE ....) window was still present in the background.

 

PCLinuxOS started copying itself from the LiveCD to my computer.

 

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after some time it finished its job and presented me with yet another wizard choice, this time for grub. Strangely the programmers didn't bother to consider long 'hard disc serial' names (look at boot device) so I ended up with a scroll bar which makes the wizard look.... unfinished. Anyway, I went with the defaults but before doing so I clicked on the 'bootloader to use' option only to see that grub was offered with graphical, text and also lilo was offered. Cool.

 

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After this I was displayed with a list of entries on my boot menu so far, which included

 

Linux

Linux-nonfb

failsafe

windows

 

I clicked on the Finish button.

 

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Well obviously finish didn't mean 'the end' so the wizard asked me another question, this time it was to set the all important root password

 

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so I set my password and clicked next. After that I was prompted for a user, I entered my real name (anyweb) , and my real password (yeahright).

clicking on accept user, got me to the next stage...of enter a user.

 

I was done with that so I clicked on 'done'.

 

Although I was led to believe that the PCLinuxOS team were based somewhere in the US, the 'final' screen I saw in the wizard was a bit weird.

 

I was told to

 

'Please halt your computer, remove your live system, and restart your computer.'

 

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If anyone knows how to do the above pelase tell me. While I scratched my head I clicked on finish.

 

After pressing the power button and being greeted with a reboot option, I chose it. Cool. After the reboot I was indeed presented with a grub menu similar to what I saw in the installation, so I chose windows to boot. This option did get windows to start chkdsk so the PCLinuxOS had described things correctly. Once done checking, windows rebooted, and PCLinuxOS itself, booted (as I made no further selection within the next grub that appeared.

 

However once it loaded, I could immediatly see that my desktop was set for a really small screen (640x480 perhaps ?)

 

have a look...

 

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Ok a big Firefox window, close the tab and you can see some pclinuxOS info.

 

Great, now at least we remember what OS this was.

 

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Another 30 experiment .. neat :) PCLinuxOS is a respectable enough distribution, I used it only briefly, I am still too attached to Gentoo to move though :D

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Day 2.

 

I decided to make sure I was up to date before doing any configuring with PCLinuxOS so as root I ran

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

 

this prompted me to allow it to download and install 251MB of updates so i answered

 

y

 

once done I set about configuring my PCLinuxOS box (an old Dell Latitude D600, 512mb ram, 40gb hdd).

 

First thing to fix was the screen resolution, it was running at 640x480 (and this maybe because I had an external LCD connected. to do this I right clicked on the desktop and chose configure desktop, followed by display. Unfortunately that only listed 640x480 as an available resolution with no more to choose from, so I needed to find out why. I removed the external vga cable (for the external LCD) and restarted X (ctrl_alt_backspace).

 

big mistake, now all I get is a cli login screen, and when I login and try startx I get a long screen of info which ends with 'no screens found'.

 

After some googling I try the following:-

 

replacing xorg.conf (in /etc/X11) with the one called xorg.conf.backup

 

didn't work,

 

tried using ATI's propritary linux driver from here > http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html which perhaps telllingly does not list support for the video card that this machine has which is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.

 

That didn't work either (driver installed fine, but I still get no screens found.

 

I tried running XFdrake --auto and still no luck, so I'm now on day two with a cli based 'modern linux distro' currently listed as number one on distrowatch.com.

 

I'm confused to say the least....

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Day 3.

 

ok last night I tried many things to get X to work, and all failed miserably. Today I booted the PCLinuxOS livecd and copied /etc/X11xorg.conf to a usb key, I then copied that back to my PClinuxOs installation, but it made no difference I still get the errors when trying to startx.

 

attached is xorg.conf (after booting from the livecd) and the log file after trying to startx.

 

xorg.conf

 

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

 

# **********************************************************************

# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of

# this file.

# **********************************************************************

 

Section "Files"

# font server independent of the X server to render fonts.

FontPath "unix/:-1"

 

# minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs

FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"

EndSection

 

Section "Extensions"

Option "Composite"

EndSection

 

Section "ServerFlags"

#DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)

#DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)

AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work

EndSection

 

Section "Module"

Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension

Load "v4l" # Video for Linux

Load "extmod"

Load "type1"

Load "freetype"

Load "glx" # 3D layer

Load "dri" # direct rendering

EndSection

 

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"

Driver "kbd"

Option "XkbModel" "pc105"

Option "XkbLayout" "us"

Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"

EndSection

 

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Mouse1"

Driver "mouse"

Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"

Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"

EndSection

 

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "monitor1"

VendorName "Plug'n Play"

ModelName ""

HorizSync 61-63

VertRefresh 70-79

 

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.

# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync

ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

 

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync

ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616

EndSection

 

Section "Device"

Identifier "device1"

VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."

BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"

Driver "ati"

Option "DPMS" "false"

Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"

EndSection

 

Section "Screen"

Identifier "screen1"

Device "device1"

Monitor "monitor1"

DefaultColorDepth 16

 

Subsection "Display"

Depth 8

Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"

EndSubsection

 

Subsection "Display"

Depth 15

Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"

EndSubsection

 

Subsection "Display"

Depth 16

Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"

EndSubsection

 

Subsection "Display"

Depth 24

Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"

EndSubsection

EndSection

 

Section "ServerLayout"

Identifier "layout1"

InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

Screen "screen1"

EndSection

 

and the log file after trying to startx (Xorg.0.log)

 

X Window System Version 7.1.1

Release Date: 12 May 2006

X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1

Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18.6.dev5.k8h i686

Current Operating System: Linux dell4.ris2.risserver.com 2.6.18.8.tex5 #1 SMP Thu May 10 11:36:58 WST 2007 i686

Build Date: 28 March 2007

Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org

to make sure that you have the latest version.

Module Loader present

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jan 13 20:59:11 2008

(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

(==) ServerLayout "layout1"

(**) |-->Screen "screen1" (0)

(**) | |-->Monitor "monitor1"

(**) | |-->Device "device1"

(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"

(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"

(**) FontPath set to:

unix/:-1,

/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled

(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb"

(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"

(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled

(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)

(II) Module ABI versions:

X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3

X.Org Video Driver: 1.0

X.Org XInput driver : 0.6

X.Org Server Extension : 0.3

X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5

(II) Loader running on linux

(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so

(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0

Module class: X.Org Font Renderer

ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5

(II) Loading font Bitmap

(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so

(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0

ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0

Using vt 7

(--) using VT number 7

 

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)

(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,3340 card 0000,0000 rev 21 class 06,00,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,3341 card 0000,0000 rev 21 class 06,04,00 hdr 01

(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 8086,4541 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80

(II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 8086,4541 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 8086,4541 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 1028,011d rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card 0000,0000 rev 81 class 06,04,00 hdr 01

(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24cc card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80

(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24ca card 8086,4541 rev 01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 1028,011d rev 01 class 04,01,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,24c6 card 14f1,5422 rev 01 class 07,03,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4c66 card 1028,011d rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 14e4,165d card 1028,865d rev 01 class 02,00,00 hdr 00

(II) PCI: 02:01:0: chip 1217,7113 card d001,0000 rev 20 class 06,07,00 hdr 82

(II) PCI: 02:01:1: chip 1217,7113 card d801,0000 rev 20 class 06,07,00 hdr 82

(II) PCI: End of PCI scan

(II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled

(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:

(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,7), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)

(II) Bus 0 I/O range:

[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX

(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX

(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX

(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:

(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set)

(II) Bus 1 I/O range:

[0] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX

[2] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c8ff (0x100) IX

[3] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX

(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xfdffffff (0x2000000) MX

(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX

(II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge:

(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,10), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared)

(II) Bus 2 I/O range:

[0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX

[2] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX

[3] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX

[4] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX

[5] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX

[6] -1 0 0x0000e800 - 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX

[7] -1 0 0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX

(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0xf6000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x6000000) MX

(II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0x30000000 - 0x33ffffff (0x4000000) MX

(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:

(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)

(II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge:

(II) Bus 3: bridge is at (2:1:0), (2,3,6), BCTRL: 0x0580 (VGA_EN is cleared)

(II) Bus 3 I/O range:

[0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX

(II) Bus 3 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0xf6000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x2000000) MX

(II) Bus 3 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0x30000000 - 0x31ffffff (0x2000000) MX

(II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge:

(II) Bus 7: bridge is at (2:1:1), (2,7,10), BCTRL: 0x0580 (VGA_EN is cleared)

(II) Bus 7 I/O range:

[0] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX

(II) Bus 7 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX

(II) Bus 7 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0 0x32000000 - 0x33ffffff (0x2000000) MX

(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] rev 2, Mem @ 0xe8000000/27, 0xfcff0000/16, I/O @ 0xc000/8

(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are

[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX

[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX

(II) OS-reported resource ranges:

[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXE(B)

[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX

[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX

[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX

[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX

(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf0000000 from 0xf3ffffff to 0xefffffff

(II) Active PCI resource ranges:

[0] -1 0 0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX

[1] -1 0 0xf4fff400 - 0xf4fff4ff (0x100) MX

[2] -1 0 0xf4fff800 - 0xf4fff9ff (0x200) MX

[3] -1 0 0x34000000 - 0x340003ff (0x400) MX

[4] -1 0 0xf4fffc00 - 0xf4ffffff (0x400) MX

[5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MXO

[6] -1 0 0xfcff0000 - 0xfcffffff (0x10000) MX(B)

[7] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX(B)

[8] -1 0 0x0000bc40 - 0x0000bc7f (0x40) IX

[9] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX

[10] -1 0 0x0000bfa0 - 0x0000bfaf (0x10) IX

[11] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000374 (0x1) IX

[12] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x00000170 (0x1) IX

[13] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f4 (0x1) IX

[14] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX

[15] -1 0 0x0000bf20 - 0x0000bf3f (0x20) IX

[16] -1 0 0x0000bf40 - 0x0000bf5f (0x20) IX

[17] -1 0 0x0000bf80 - 0x0000bf9f (0x20) IX

[18] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX(B)

(II) Inactive PCI resource ranges:

[0] -1 0 0x0000b080 - 0x0000b0ff (0x80) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX

(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:

[0] -1 0 0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX

[1] -1 0 0xf4fff400 - 0xf4fff4ff (0x100) MX

[2] -1 0 0xf4fff800 - 0xf4fff9ff (0x200) MX

[3] -1 0 0x34000000 - 0x340003ff (0x400) MX

[4] -1 0 0xf4fffc00 - 0xf4ffffff (0x400) MX

[5] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MXO

[6] -1 0 0xfcff0000 - 0xfcffffff (0x10000) MX(B)

[7] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX(B)

[8] -1 0 0x0000bc40 - 0x0000bc7f (0x40) IX

[9] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX

[10] -1 0 0x0000bfa0 - 0x0000bfaf (0x10) IX

[11] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000374 (0x1) IX

[12] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x00000170 (0x1) IX

[13] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f4 (0x1) IX

[14] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX

[15] -1 0 0x0000bf20 - 0x0000bf3f (0x20) IX

[16] -1 0 0x0000bf40 - 0x0000bf5f (0x20) IX

[17] -1 0 0x0000bf80 - 0x0000bf9f (0x20) IX

[18] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX(B)

(II) Inactive PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:

[0] -1 0 0x0000b080 - 0x0000b0ff (0x80) IX

[1] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX

(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:

[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x33ffffff (0x33f00000) MXE(B)

[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX

[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX

[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX

[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX

(II) All system resource ranges:

[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x33ffffff (0x33f00000) MXE(B)

[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX

[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX

[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX

[4] -1 0 0xfaff0000 - 0xfaffffff (0x10000) MX

[5] -1 0 0xf4fff400 - 0xf4fff4ff (0x100) MX

[6] -1 0 0xf4fff800 - 0xf4fff9ff (0x200) MX

[7] -1 0 0x34000000 - 0x340003ff (0x400) MX

[8] -1 0 0xf4fffc00 - 0xf4ffffff (0x400) MX

[9] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xefffffff (0x0) MXO

[10] -1 0 0xfcff0000 - 0xfcffffff (0x10000) MX(B)

[11] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX(B)

[12] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX

[13] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX

[14] -1 0 0x0000bc40 - 0x0000bc7f (0x40) IX

[15] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX

[16] -1 0 0x0000bfa0 - 0x0000bfaf (0x10) IX

[17] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000374 (0x1) IX

[18] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x00000170 (0x1) IX

[19] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f4 (0x1) IX

[20] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX

[21] -1 0 0x0000bf20 - 0x0000bf3f (0x20) IX

[22] -1 0 0x0000bf40 - 0x0000bf5f (0x20) IX

[23] -1 0 0x0000bf80 - 0x0000bf9f (0x20) IX

[24] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX(B)

[25] -1 0 0x0000b080 - 0x0000b0ff (0x80) IX

[26] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX

(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so

(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0

Module class: X.Org Server Extension

ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3

(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER

(II) LoadModule: "v4l"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/v4l_drv.so

(II) Module v4l: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 0.1.1

ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0

(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so

(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0

Module class: X.Org Server Extension

ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3

(II) Loading extension SHAPE

(II) Loading extension Multi-Buffering

(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD

(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS

(II) Loading extension SYNC

(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

(II) Loading extension XC-MISC

(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension

(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc

(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA

(II) Loading extension DPMS

(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP

(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information

(II) Loading extension XVideo

(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation

(II) Loading extension X-Resource

(II) LoadModule: "type1"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libtype1.so

(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.2

Module class: X.Org Font Renderer

ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5

(II) Loading font Type1

(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so

(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 2.1.0

Module class: X.Org Font Renderer

ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5

(II) Loading font FreeType

(II) LoadModule: "glx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so

(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0

ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3

(==) AIGLX enabled

(II) Loading extension GLX

(II) LoadModule: "ati"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so

(II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 6.6.3

Module class: X.Org Video Driver

ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2

(EE) module ABI minor version (2) is newer than the server's version (0)

(II) UnloadModule: "ati"

(II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so

(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module requirement mismatch, 0)

(II) LoadModule: "kbd"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so

(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.1.0

Module class: X.Org XInput Driver

ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7

(EE) module ABI minor version (7) is newer than the server's version (6)

(II) UnloadModule: "kbd"

(II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so

(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module requirement mismatch, 0)

(II) LoadModule: "mouse"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so

(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.2

Module class: X.Org XInput Driver

ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7

(EE) module ABI minor version (7) is newer than the server's version (6)

(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"

(II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so

(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement mismatch, 0)

(II) v4l driver for Video4Linux

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0

(EE) No devices detected.

 

Fatal server error:

no screens found

 

any ideas ? or should I just try PCLinuxOS on another non-ati machine ?

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After much poking around .. I know what your problem seems to be!

 

Basically when you apt-get update it updated packages to a version that didn't match the version of X. Which means that you most likely need to update your "distribution" files as well. These are effectively the system files.

 

So do:

apt-get dist-upgrade

 

This is a thing that has happened to me under Ubuntu before but it didn't effect X. Hopefully this will solve your issues.

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After much poking around .. I know what your problem seems to be!

 

Basically when you apt-get update it updated packages to a version that didn't match the version of X. Which means that you most likely need to update your "distribution" files as well. These are effectively the system files.

 

So do:

apt-get dist-upgrade

 

This is a thing that has happened to me under Ubuntu before but it didn't effect X. Hopefully this will solve your issues.

 

aye ive sorted out debian problems with dist-upgrade many of times :P

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Day 4

 

apt-get dist-upgrade

has resolved the X issues, great but imho those issues shouldn't have arisen in the first place.

 

After a reboot however, (i was away from the pc) it just sat at the X login screen and I couldnt type my password for either root or anyweb no matter how I clicked on them (it just said login failed) pressing caps lock however did tell me that caps lock was pressed so I knew the keyboard was working, i had to use the mouse to click on system-menu and restart X, after that I was able to login correctly and post this

 

post-1-1200298987.png

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anyweb, the reason why you have had problems is down to installing mixed packages. If you installed most of PCLinuxOS from a bootable CD and the apt repositories (/etc/apt/sources.list on debian) are for a newer version of the distro that was on that CD there will be conflicts, this has happened to me quite a lot on debian before i knew what i was doing. Its IMPORTANT to check to make sure your using the correct repositories what match the version of your running distro before you perform any kind software update. If the repositories are for a newer version of your currently distro you would either have to change them to match the distro version your running or perform a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.

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yes, except that I didnt change any repo's at all, or mixed packages, I just issued an

 apt-get upgrade

command which on any apt based system should perform an upgrade of the installed packages. I would assume that PCLinuxOS would have configured their repo's correctly so that this could be accomplished, but maybe not.

 

anyways, I'm now installing PCLinuxOS on another machine here for laffs to get a better idea of the distro, except this time i'm doing a dist-upgrade to be sure to be sure.

 

cheers

anyweb

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Day 4 - continued.

 

ok i've installed PCLinuxOS on another machine and this time i went for dist-upgrade, no problems so far but I couldn't get kopete to work either with msn or gaim, and so installed pidgin (which i normally use anyway)

 

the default font in Xchat looks very different to Fedora so i'll have to take a look at the desktop/font settings

 

take a look at this screenshot

 

post-1-1200323229.png

 

I surfed over to youtube and could watch videos without having to do anything at all, so it seems that PCLinuxOS has flash preconfigured, nice !

 

in addition, I could play this mp3 without being prompted to load any codecs, this is also nice.

 

indeed, I checked what plugins were preinstalled (on firefox 2.0.0.11, well that was after an update mentioned above but it did ship with 2.0.0.3)

 

http://about:plugins lists the following

 

Installed plug-ins

Find more information about browser plug-ins at mozilla.org.

Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org.

Shockwave Flash

 

File name: libflashplayer.so

Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48

 

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled

application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes

application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

MozPlugger 1.8.1 handles QuickTime and Windows Media Player Plugin

 

File name: mozplugger.so

MozPlugger version 1.8.1, written by Fredrik H

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... great but imho those issues shouldn't have arisen in the first place...

 

Indeed, I think that basically they failed to take in account some of the dependencies of Xorg and that lead to the issues you have experienced.

 

Basically the trick is though to look at the end of the upgrade/update option for the line that says something like:

x packages upgraded, y newly installed, z to remove and u not upgraded.

 

If u isn't 0 then its time for a dist-upgrade.

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day 5

 

ok i really don't like the fonts in PCLinuxOS, maybe it's just me or maybe it's just KDE either way i don't like them.

 

look at this screenshot of bash.org, don't the fonts look awful ? i think so, so I started up PCLinux's 'configure your computer' icon and selected System on the left, followed by Manage, add and remove fonts, import Windows fonts. I had a modular bay handy with windows XP sp2 on it, so I inserted it and it was automounted. I clicked on 'Get Windows Fonts' at the bottom of the tool and it complained that no mounted partitions found with fonts on it. I then manually browsed the mount (/dev/sda1) to verify that it was indeed a windows partition, and then went back to the tool, this time, it read/imported and applied the Windows fonts. AFter restarting Firefox the difference in font rendering was unreal (ie: way improved), have a look yourself.

 

Before:

 

post-1-1200398111.png

 

After:

 

post-1-1200398242.png

 

 

Installing Windows Codecs and Dvd playback

 

after some reading about PCLinuxOS I discovered that it doesnt include the windows codecs or dvd playback by default (and it doesnt include nvidia or ati hardware enabled drivers either), so I wanted to add dvd playback and the windows codecs, to do so I opened a konsole and became root then did

 

apt-get install libdvdcss2 win32-codecs

 

 

Installing gnome

 

I know there is a gnome based PCLinuxOS cd available now (after reading the docs) however as I've PCLinuxOs installed now I'd like to configure it the way I want, so that means I want to add Gnome as no matter how much I try I cannot get used to (or like using) KDE. So I follow this guide and will post back here later if it worked ok.

 

Ok it worked, as you can see here, I simply had to log out once synaptic was done downloading and installing and then choose gnome form the session menu.

 

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day 6

 

even though I had installed gnome yesterday, for some reason nautilus wasn't included, I only noticed that today when I tried to view a ntfs drive and then it dawned on me that there were also no icons on the desktop,

 

as root

 

apt-get install nautilus

 

resolved that

 

I tried to play a dvd today to test the libdvdcss and sure enough, it worked, straight away, no fuss, no errors, no problems at all. Nice.

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Day 7

 

Want to hear something weird ? well since i've started using PCLinuxOS I've noticed something strange happening with my Smoothwall 3 firewall, namely it has rebooted itself 5 or so times in the last few days for no apparent reason,

 

no apparent reason that is until I noticed that the reboot occurred at the very same time that I attempted to view a video on bbc news website, no kidding.

 

I would click on a video link on the bbc news website in firefox and it would open the mplayer plugin window, all fine, it would eventually say 'mplayer connected' but no video, and at that point i'd loose all network connectvity and glancing over my shoulder I could see that the firewall (smoothwall 3) had kernel panicked.

 

What ???

 

yup, kernel panicked, which then caused it to reboot and once it had finished rebooting I had network activity restored,

 

to verify this i opened a cli and did the following

 

mplayer http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/world/video/145000/bb/145431_16x9_bb.asx?ad=1

 

as soon as I press enter on this PCLinuxOS machine, my Smoothwall 3 firewall kernel panicks,

 

can anyone please tell me what is going on here ? I do have access to other machines running windows xp/vista and fedora which I can test the same link on to verify this....

 

ok i tried the same link (using IE7) with xpsp2 and the smoothwall didnt kernel panic, so is this some bizarre pclinuxOs bug ?

 

back to the PCLinuxOS machine, if i wget the http:// link it works, no kernel panic

 

so I will test once more by using mplayer,

 

very odd, now I cannot duplicate the issue again, perhaps smoothwall needs to have been running for a certain amount of time first... I have no idea

 

but here's the output from cli in PCLOS

 

[anyweb@np0013722cba3d ~]$ mplayer http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/worl...6x9_bb.asx?ad=1

MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.1.1 © 2000-2007 MPlayer Team

CPU: Intel® Pentium® M processor 1200MHz (Family: 6, Model: 9, Stepping: 5)

CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1

Compiled with runtime CPU detection.

mplayer: could not connect to socket

mplayer: No such file or directory

Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

 

Playing http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/worl...6x9_bb.asx?ad=1.

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...

Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: news.bbc.co.uk

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...

Connecting to server news.bbc.co.uk[212.58.226.75]: 80...

STREAM_ASF, URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/worl...6x9_bb.asx?ad=1

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...

Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: news.bbc.co.uk

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...

Connecting to server news.bbc.co.uk[212.58.226.75]: 80...

size_confirm mismatch!: 22611 28271

Error while parsing chunk header

Failed, exiting.

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET6...

Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: news.bbc.co.uk

Resolving news.bbc.co.uk for AF_INET...

Connecting to server news.bbc.co.uk[212.58.226.75]: 80...

Cache size set to 320 KBytes

Cache fill: 0.25% (810 bytes)

 

 

Exiting... (End of file)

[anyweb@np0013722cba3d ~]$

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