Hey everyone

This is a f1rst p0st!!!1, so an introduction is in order I guess.

I am a life-long windows user without any tech background. I don't get viruses on Windows, nor does it crash, misbehave, or do anything I don't like. I want to try out Linux because I can. I'm just curious and interested. I don't know much, but I am not at all daunted by the command line or learning new things. Actually I am looking forward to the learning curve. In any case, I am as noob as they come (never even installed or upgraded an OS since it was always Windows OEM), so thanks in advance for your patience.

Anyway I checked out some of the popular distros via LiveCD. I picked Fedora 8, and now I am finally ready to install Linux for the first time after messing with LiveCDs for a long time.

My PC has one IDE 80gb HDD. This has two partitions, one is Windows XP in NTFS, and the other is a recovery partition in FAT32. The two partitions take up the entire drive - there is no unclaimed space, but there is like 14gb free on the WinXP partition. I want to have a dual boot thing going, because of course this is only a trial of Linux. I see articles online that talk about resizing a windows partition, crossing your fingers, and hoping you don't erase everything. No. So I got a cheapo IDE HHD from newegg on the way. This is 80gb as well. What I'm wondering is: what do I do?

 

-Can I install Fedora 8 onto my new HDD and have my Windows drive perfectly safe (disconnect it during installation, even?)

 

-Assuming I can install Fedora onto a second IDE HDD, can I get a bootloader working that will let me choose the right OS even when they are on seperate drives?

 

-If I have a Windows bootloader on the original HDD, and then GRUB or whatever was installed with Fedora on the new HDD, would they conflict? Could I even load an OS?

 

-Could I boot into Fedora on HDD 2 and reach into my NTFS Windows partition on HDD 1 and pull out all my documents and music, and put them in my home folder to be all, you know, Linuxy?

 

-Am I going to break, ruin, render useless, erase, burn, melt, or kill anything?

 

Thanks everyone.

Quote:The latest release of the GNOME desktop environment includes a number of significant architectural enhancements and new applications that offer increased power and usability. Released after six months of intensive development, GNOME 2.22 will be included in Ubuntu 8.04 and Fedora 9, which are scheduled for release in April.

I've just come back to linux and installed FC8. I used to use RH9 (yea its been a while). I went to compile some old code of mine and this is what I get:

 

 

make ../bin/circle

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jay/Desktop/circ/circle-3.1/src'

gcc -o ../bin/circle arena.o asciimap.o act.comm.o act.informative.o act.item.o act.movement.o act.offensive.o act.other.o act.social.o act.wizard.o alias.o ban.o boards.o clan.o clanedit.o class.o comm.o color.o config.o constants.o db.o fight.o graph.o handler.o house.o interpreter.o limits.o magic.o mail.o mobact.o modify.o objsave.o olc.o random.o shop.o spec_assign.o spec_procs.o spell_parser.o spells.o utils.o weather.o warzone.o bsd-snprintf.o cedit.o genmob.o genobj.o genolc.o genshp.o genwld.o genzon.o improved-edit.o medit.o oasis.o oasis_copy.o oasis_delete.o oasis_list.o oedit.o redit.o sedit.o tedit.o zedit.o aedit.o range.o diskio.o quest.o -lcrypt

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `arena.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `asciimap.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.informative.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.item.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.movement.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.offensive.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.other.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.social.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `act.wizard.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `alias.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `ban.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

..........

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `diskio.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `quest.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

make[1]: *** [../bin/circle] Error 1

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jay/Desktop/circ/circle-3.1/src'

make: *** [all] Error 2

 

 

For some reason the i386 version of FC8 would not install. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanx.

The beta version of Fedora 9 has been released. It comes with GNOME 2.22, KDE 4.0.2, Firefox 3.0 beta 5, PackageKit, Kernel 2.6.25-rc5, and much more. "The Beta release is the point at which we really want and need the wider community's help with testing. Beta is a point of much greater stability in Fedora's development branch, but some fixes continue to occur to improve usability, performance, and stability."

 

linked from osnews.com

 

checkout the features ~!~

 

Some highlights of Fedora 9 Beta:

 

* GNOME 2.22, with new features like a helpful world time clock, better

file system performance, security improvements, power management at the

login screen, the ability to dynamically configure displays, better

Bluetooth integration, improved podcast support, and many other

enhancements

* KDE 4.0.2, which includes a brand new desktop and panel with many new

concepts, integrated desktop search, a brand new visual style called

Oxygen, a new multimedia API called Phonon, and a new hardware

integration framework called Solid -- all integrated by Fedora's KDE SIG

* Firefox 3 Beta 5, featuring a native look and feel, desktop

integration, the new Places that replaces bookmarks, and a reworked

address bar

* Support for resizing ext2, ext3 and NTFS partitions during install

* Support for creating and installing to encrypted filesystems

* PackageKit, a cross-distribution package management solution with a

complete yum backend, designed to unify different distributions'

software management with the latest technologies

* Kernel 2.6.25-rc5

I wanted to experience even more power and learn more about linux.

So, (after some advice from a friend) i decided to try Linux Gentoo (AMD64).

 

So i printed the gentoo handbook (the whole thing 0.o) from gentoo.org and burned a livecd.

I followed the instruction in the handbook, I manually configured the kernel. Then i went to compile. (using make)

I get a compiling error. Something like this: "internal compiler error: segmentation fault". I think thats it, i couldn't copy and paste :)

The odd thing is, when i repeated this a few times the error will occur in different places.

But it always fail, Different places each time. Almost at random?

 

This is the first time i have tried to install a linux distro this complex. And the first time i have compiled the kernel.

So, im really lost.

 

Thanks :-)

 

</Dream.In.Code>

this forums is now have more people right?

Hi,

 

I've installed Debian 4 on my PC.

Over the last couple of days I have managed (somehow) to mount my NTFS drives, get the sound working, and get the internet to work over the wireless.

 

A couple of questions though.

 

At the moment, every time I reboot / log in I need to mount the NTFS hard drives and run the modprobe ndiswrapper command in order to try and get things to work.

 

Any chance that these things can get done automatically during boot up or log in?

 

Thanks,

 

Ori

I'm trying to get access to on-line academic journals and I need to run a Java applet downloaded by a library's server. When I try to do this, I get an error message:

 

It's official: SELinux is now available in the Ubuntu development ('Hardy Heron') distribution. "This is the result of the amazing work of the ubuntu-security and ubuntu-hardened teams, as well as the huge contributions from the folks at Tresys (SELinux will not be the default, but is available as a security option)." In other news, Sun has started offering Ubuntu as an option.

 

via osnews.com

 

more info > http://lwn.net/Articles/273992

Hi all

I noticed that all replied answers to a topic has to be clicked to be viewed. How do I set it that all threads are displayed automatically?

 

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